[MR2] I have a question about VVT-i cylinder heads for MR2s

[Joel]

Ted,

thanks for correcting me. :)

i was speaking purely from an opinion point, and hearsay that i've heard 
thru the grapevine.

but, again, i'm glad that someone with more knowledge stepped up and 
gave more accurate info. :)

- joel -


Ted Volkman wrote:
>> while the 3rd gen is an option (outside CA),
>> there isnt enough of a difference between the 2nd and 3rd gen to make the
>> extra cost worthwhile.
>>     
>
> Having owned both (and seen plenty of examples of each), I would
> strongly disagree with this statement.  Especially if you are
> comparing stock 2nd gen vs stock 3rd gen or bolt-on 2nd gen vs bolt on
> 3rd gen.
>
> All of the following are superior in the 3rd gen
> intake manifold
> head
> cams
> turbo
> efi (better ecu and 550s vs 440s)
>
> They are also newer, which typically means lower mileage and less time
> sitting around not running.
>
> If you are completely building the engine (ie cams, head work, intake
> manifold, standalone, etc...), then yes the difference is negligible,
> but most people don't go that far.
>
> --
> ted
> 02 is300 L-tuned, 5 speed
> 94t supra 6 speed, 67mm, aem
> 93t mr2 gen3, t3/t4, 264s, aem
> 88sc mr2
> 98 honda vfr800
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Joel <priamyd at comcast.net> wrote:
>   
>> the setup you are referring to is called the 'BEAMS' 3SGE.  it was only ever
>> offered in NA setup, and if memory serves correctly, and was offered in 4
>> vehicles.
>> 1. celica
>> 2. mr2
>> 3. rav4 (the least power of all)
>> 4. rs200 (stateside called the is300 with a different engine)
>>
>> i'm sure you COULD (with enough time/money) take a BEAMS setup and
>> turbo/super charge it, but i am unaware of it ever being done.
>>
>> you could, physically/technically, put a BEAMS head onto a 1st, 2nd or 3rd
>> gen 3S block.  but, then you get to deal with 'fun' custom wiring or a stand
>> alone ECU.
>>
>> so, in short:
>> can it be done?  yes.
>> should it be done?  if you have DEEP pockets that are lined with silver,
>> gold and precious stones... why not? :)
>>
>> but, honestly, you'd get far better results (power, legal, etc) if you were
>> to build up a 2nd gen 3sgte.  while the 3rd gen is an option (outside CA),
>> there isnt enough of a difference between the 2nd and 3rd gen to make the
>> extra cost worthwhile.
>>
>> - joel -
>>
>>
>> Moi Brown wrote:
>>     
>>> Hey Guys and Gals
>>> I was wondering about VVT-i cylinder heads for MR2s.  I know that the MR2
>>> left our shores here in the states in 95, but continued to be built until
>>> 99
>>> in Japan.  My question is, were the VVT-i heads for stricly for Turbos or
>>> N/As or both, and would it be difficult to adapt one to go on an older
>>> MK2 MR2 engine?  I was also wondering if anyones actually done a
>>> conversion
>>> of this type?  I was just wondering incase I decided to rebuild my 5stge
>>> in
>>> my NA MK2 in the future.  I know it's bastardization, but it would be good
>>> bastardization.
>>>