[MR2] MK2 3SGTE Question

Aaron Bunch nitrusmr2 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 29 14:04:55 EDT 2009


The rear LSD is an extremely rare option in the US. It was not standard. 

Buy the cleanest most virgin ST185 you can find. I've seen lots of them. Most are pretty slutted out. Dave Hawkins has a great one. He ignored the mileage and bought based on condition/originality.

Aaron

Aaron Bunch    ATS Racing    http://www.atsracing.net
91 2.2 GT35R ATS Turbo MR2 - 607 rwhp @ 34psi
93 SMG Turbo MR2 291 rwhp @ 20.5 psi spare car
07 Tundra DC 5.7

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--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Dennis McFayden <mr2garage at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Dennis McFayden <mr2garage at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR2] MK2 3SGTE Question
> To: "Joel" <priamyd at comcast.net>
> Cc: "MR2 Email" <mr2 at mr2.com>
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 8:04 AM
> Joel,
>  
> Thanks for the information. Very helpful
>  
> Dennis
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Joel <priamyd at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> From: Joel <priamyd at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [MR2] MK2 3SGTE Question
> To: mr2garage at yahoo.com
> Cc: "MR2 Email" <mr2 at mr2.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:51 PM
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> the US spec ST185 AllTrac Celica uses an Air to Air
> intercooler setup.  the
> intercooler rests just above the engine, basically making
> it an
> 'inter-warmer' when the car is not moving at normal
> speeds.  the US spec
> ST165 AllTrac Celica came with an Air To Water intercooler
> setup, but the
> intercooler itself was a bit small...  still, this is
> a far cry more efficient
> than a front mount air to air intercooler setup as you have
> far less piping, far
> less loss of air flow efficiency and do not draw the
> attention of cops. :)
> 
> the JDM version uses a superior Air To Water setup that
> relies upon a small
> radiator (called a heat exchanger) that rests in front of
> the standard radiator.
> 
> the ST185 also uses the 2nd gen 3sgte engine, which has
> stronger bottom end
> internals (larger journals on both sides of the connecting
> rods) which help to
> increase reliability and power holding potential.
> 
> unless i'm mistaken, all 3sgte's have oil squirters in the
> block to
> cool the pistons - a definite plus!
> 
> getting to the turbo is an absolute joke - once you open
> the hood, its resting
> directly in front of you.
> 
> overall, the engine bay of all AllTrac Celica's is very
> cramped.
> 
> all AllTrac Celica's tend to be very nose heavy - there
> isnt much you can
> do about that, other than shave some weight from the front
> and add some to the
> rear.
> 
> the stock suspension is very soft and could REALLY use a
> nice set of upgraded
> springs and adjustable struts.
> 
> beyond that, the engine is just as reliable as the mr2
> turbo, depending on the
> amount of power you squeeze out of it.  the
> transmission is pretty strong.  the
> front usually has an open diff, the center is viscous and
> the rear end comes
> from the factory with a helical LSD (ie. gear driven, and
> not clutch pack).
> 
> an instant upgrade would be getting the RC/CS (Carlos
> Sainz) edition engine and
> transmission and swapping it into any AllTrac
> Celica/AllTrac Camry as both the
> engine, and transmission have been strengthened
> tremendously.  toyota even went
> to the lengths of installing a metal head gasket in the
> RC/CS engine - not
> exactly a common thing.  even the Twin Turbo Supras
> & Turbo Mr2s came with
> the standard organic head gasket.
> 
> so, in short, if you abuse it, it will fail.  if you
> maintain it and dont push
> it to the redline constantly, it should last you a good
> long time.
> 
> - joel -
> 
> 
> Dennis McFayden wrote:
> > Actually this question is about a Celica with the
> 3SGTE engine. Does
> andyone know anything good or bad about a 1990 Celica with
> 4-wheel drive with
> this engine.  Dennis
> > 
> > 
> >   
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