mr2-digest Wednesday, 18 October 1995 Volume 01 : Number 005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: uunet!proteon.com!Anna.Klein (Anna Klein) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 07:52:48 EDT Subject: Re: undigest.sh for Unix users > People running Unix and readers that allow piping messages through scripts > can adapt the following very dumb sh script. If you use emacs RMAIL to read your email, the M-x undigestify-rmail-message command works pretty nicely. > The script will copy the digest into a number of separate mail messages and > mail them to you. It tries to recover the original From: and Subject: but > no guarantees, so the old ones are preserved. Emacs does the same thing, except the original sender's host.domain info is lost (the To: is just the original sender's username), so you can't just reply to the mail message without modifying the header info. Here's the mail header I got when I did an emacs RMAIL reply to David's undigestified message: To: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Cc: mr2-digest@uunet.uu.net In-reply-to: "dgh"'s message of Tue, 17 Oct 95 10:32:53 PDT Subject: Re: undigest.sh for Unix users Thanks, David, for all the hard work you put into setting this up! Anna apk@proteon.com ------------------------------ From: uunet!softy.softwords.bc.ca!geoff Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 10:32:29 PDT Subject: Suspension Bushings Has anyone here installed the stiffer TRD suspension bushings in a MkII? If so, I'd like to ask you a few questions. E-mail me. Thanks Geoff '91t, 153,700km ------------------------------ From: uunet!aol.com!Casey7970 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 15:48:43 -0400 Subject: new subscriber Hello, my name is Kip Anderson. I am new to this list and anxious to ask all of you a bunch of silly, perhaps stupid questions, but I'll try to check out the FAQ first. No response req'd. unless it's where to get the FAQ. Casey 7970@aol.com 91 "Look at me, ticket me yeelow!" Turbo ------------------------------ From: uunet!diane.csg.mot.com!mikep (Mike Pittelkow) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:44:59 -0500 Subject: Re: spark plugs and wires > First, the plugs in my car when I bought it were Bosch platinums with the > stock gap which is about .045". I discovered this when I changed them 10M > later, but I've never had a problem with misfires at high boost, although > the engine would idle a bit rough sometimes. I seem to remember that Cal had > gapped his plugs as high as .050" with his Jacobs ignition. Marc's tried gaps higher than .032 w/ a Jacobs omni-pak on his turbo car, and has had problems. > > Second, if you're changing your plugs and are trying to get at the third plug, > you can either remove the intercooler to throttle body hose as Marc mentioned, > or you can disconnect the other end of the wire at the distributor cap which > gives you enough play to remove the boot. > In order to get clearance for my wrench, I ended up removing the hos->throttle body adapter plate. Quick easy, and provided lots of clearance. Interesting trivia here, 92->93 the intercooler->throttle body tubing changed size whent he throttle body got larger around. I don't really see the point. None of the other restrictions int he intake seem to have changed. I ran the Bosch Platinum's (gapped to .032) for abotu 10 minutes. Lots of detonation, bucking and snorting. Swapped them back to the stock NGK's, and everything was fine. Go figure. ------------------------------ From: uunet!mfmail!cpn.UUCP!kes (Kevin Startup) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 11:41:18 GMT Subject: Smokey engines FAO of the people who have posted lately about smoking engines : Smoke from the exhaust (blue oil smoke) is caused by worn valve guide oil seals in 90% of all cases. If not, it is a blown head gasket - which you'll know about if it is, or it is piston rings which is time for a new engine. Valve guide oil seals are PERISHABLE parts and cost pennies to replace. Unfortunately, they are quite difficult to do as they involve removing the head from the engine and the valves from the head. If you are losing vast quantities of oil then it could also be this although replacing all the gaskets will again probably fix this. These jobs are very labour intensive but the parts are pennies, and will make the engine a hell of a lot better, I can't believe people don't have a mechanic that will do this for them. A main dealer will charge you a fortune to do something like this, but if you find a decent mechanic, they are quite capable of doing this sort of thing. You can even do it yourself if you have the time. Engine wear is over exaggerated by most of the population - solid metal doesn't give much you know!! Just my humble opinion, but it's worth trying. At least the jobs are labour intensive so you can do them yourself at minimal cost. By the way, just for the record, I don't like the new digest system either, but if it saves money, then so be it. E-MAIL to: kes@mfltd.co.uk ------------------------------ From: uunet!arthor.cais.com!scott_maclean (Scott Maclean) Date: 18 Oct 1995 5:00 EST Subject: 91T Rear Wheel Reply-To: scott_maclean@arthor.cais.com (Scott Maclean) I need to replace one of the stock rear alloy wheels on my 91T. I would prefer not to pay the $450 that the dealer wants for a new one. Anyone know where I might find such a thing? Scott MacLean CASMEL-I Artificial Horizons BBS arthor@cais.com Aviation! (301) 417-9341 http://www.cais.com/arthor/www/index.html 300-33,600 bps V.FC/V.34+ * Free Access * Aviation Files * Usenet Newsgroups * CD-ROMs Online * ** Via PMail 2.3h Reg#658976 ------------------------------ From: uunet!diane.csg.mot.com!mikep (Mike Pittelkow) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:14:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Snow tires > >the cheapest way to be able to drive in the snow that i can recommend is > >to buy sandbags from walmart. last winter in my 88 mr2 was to put four > >of these sandbags in the trunk at a low cost of $1.29 each and the > >difference in traction with and without the sandbags is tremendous. > >the only drawback was no more trunk for a few months. > > I'm surprised the sandbags helped that much, since the weight of the > engine is already fairly close to the back wheels (or did you mean > the front trunk). I won't doubt it > if you say it helped, but I would think that without snow tires in the > front, steering would be far more hazardous. > -- > Mike Marks > '93T Red, 33.5k > '85 Aires LE, 99.7k, Al-Bundy Brown > A sheaf of asphalt shingles work well too. they have the advantage that they're flat, and fit nicely into the depression in the bottom of the MkII trunk. When you get stuck, they're FABULOUS for getting yourself unstuck too (not that sand isn't, but now you've got an open bag of sand to deal with - the shingles stay pretty much together) ------------------------------ From: uunet!diane.csg.mot.com!mikep (Mike Pittelkow) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 07:32:47 -0500 Subject: Re: sticker > > I agree with David Hough not using the word "club" on the sticker but > instead use "mr2-interest@validgh.com" the address instead. But don't > make it so big, otherwise it'll kill the effect. The only problem with this is that if our mailing list gets rehosted, it'll cause lot's of problems for everyone involved. ------------------------------ From: uunet!vxuwyz.cern.ch!ijscott (Ian J. Scott PPE/LE 32-RA09 Tel. 7366) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 20:41:35 +0100 Subject: radar detector: suggestions? I am looking at the possibility of picking up a radar detector for use in Europe. Does anyone know if a detector purchased here in the US works in Europe. Also, is the Valentine I worth the price? The Eurocops probably don't use very sophisticated radar since people don't have detectors here. For that reason, stealth (visual and radar) would be importatnt for me., more than absolute sensitivity. IS there a chepaper alternative? Finally, can you buy these at a shop, or do you have to order? All info. would be appreciated. Please e-mail me directly. Ian ('93 Turbo) ------------------------------ From: Wayne Nelson Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 13:00:22 PDT Subject: Supercharged MR2 automatic for sale For Sale, Supercharged MR2, 1988, automatic, low miles (67K), air, T-top, etc., red w/ tan cloth interior, new adjustable Illumina shocks, chrome factory aluminum wheels, excellent condition; asking $7300. I know most want a 5 speed, but the auto does offer some advantages in addition to ease in heavy traffic. The automatic is electronically controlled (economy/power) very responsive, 20% MORE boost from the supercharger over the 5 speed, and lower cruising rpm (to eliminated the drone of the 5 speed on the freeway). If interested, and you should try the automatic before disgarding the idea, please call me at (619)444-0840 or email to me for other information. Thanks for the bandwidth, Wayne Wayne Nelson NRaD, Code 4123 53140 Systems Street San Diego CA 92152-7565 (619)553.4099 fax 553.4808 ------------------------------ From: uunet!noao.edu!groves (Lee Groves) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 13:27:33 -0700 Subject: Sticker comments Hello all. I thought I'd write one post to reply to a couple of commetns that have been made about the my sticker design. I have a much better font selected for the lettring on/around the logo itself. I just haven't had time to order it (from the cd rom) or put it in place. As for the phrase "Pace car of the information superhighway": It was commented that the pace car is the one that slows down the other cars. I suppose that is one perspective, but it also tends to be regarded as the car that is good enough to be out on the track with the race cars. Also, in the U.S., there has been a history of special "pace car" editons of various cars, and I think the the prase "pace car of xxxx" has almost entirely positive connotations on first read. Even so, the phrase is not cast in stone, and I'm open to other suggestions. Same holds for the "Genuine Non-Skid" (I've got another design in the works to use with that phrase, too) I hope to have the *final* version finished by this weekend. Oh, and I've enjoyed several of the other submissions, too! - --Some nice stuff. Lee ------------------------------ From: "Christopher B Stell" Date: 18 Oct 1995 09:11:35 -0700 Subject: Rattle source in MKIIs I've determined the cause of an annoying rattle that sounded as though it was emanating from behind the instrument panel. Oddly enough, the rattle was most noticeable at freeway speeds and seemed to be un-stimulated by the vibration due to the road surface. What I've found is that the rattle was caused by a loose piece of trim on the outside of the car that was essentially flopping in the breeze. The trim I'm referring to is the black plastic grill that goes between the intersection of the front windshield and the hood. Both ends (passenger side and drivers side) of this grill had become loose due to fracture in the plastic at the points of attachment. I'm not sure how to reattach this piece of trim, the little plastic pieces that attach the trim to the car don't look like they are replaceable item (they might be integral to the trim). This could be a common problem, you might want to check yours. I haven't had time to fix mine yet. Christopher B. Stell 4800 Oak Grove Drive Member of Tech. Staff Pasadena, CA 91109 Power Electronics Group Tel: (818) 354-5987 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Fax: (818) 393-4272 ------------------------------ From: uunet!vxuwyz.cern.ch!ijscott (Ian J. Scott PPE/LE 32-RA09 Tel. 7366) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 20:31:27 +0100 Subject: Turbo timer: where and what I am in the US for a few days, and I would like to pick up a turbo timer. Would people who have an idea as to what a I should get, and where I might get it (quickly) please e-mail me directly. Thanks. Ian '93 Turbo ------------------------------ From: uunet!touch.caltech.edu!charlesg (Charles Grosjean) Date: 18 Oct 95 19:55:23 GMT Subject: Re: Turbo timer info!! Brent Matthew Dye writes: >don't see a listing for "Ultra." I need to order a turbo timer from them >ASAP!! ... The company is supposed to be based in Japan according to him. Ultra AutoTimer, 13,800 Y. 044-877-2441 FAX 044-877-2658, do you speak Japanese? =). I've never seen one of these for sale in Southern California, and a number of the shops here get stuff directly from Japan in order to have things others can't get (like the EVC III months before HKS distributed it here). You'll have more luck finding the Levoc which also has an automatic feature; I use one and like it other than the fact that my stupid alpine alarm won't arm due to its watching ignition for starter kill. Charles ------------------------------ From: TODD R CASPELL Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 02:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: mr2-digest V1 #3 I think Toy intended those speaker grills to be cosmetic.But you can get speakers in there and its well worth doing soundwise.I think 3.5 is about all that will fit.I had mine done at Automotive Sound in Tacoma(who I recommend)it cost me under 100.If you have it done I advise you to go early on a weekday to avoid crowds and try to talk to a installation guy cause the salesmen just want to sell you a big buck soundsystem. happy trails Todd ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 15:28:54 PDT Subject: a proposal for structuring the Toyota MR2 mailing lists Thinking about where we are now and where we will need to be, I've concluded that the lists need to be kept on a system with a direct full-time internet connection, in order to facililitate rapid moderation. Also to that end we need technology to allow multiple moderators to approve messages asynchronously without causing multiple copies of the approved messages to propagate - I don't think majordomo allows that now. Moderated mailing lists and newsgroups with just one moderator tend to have annoying periodic failures. Moderators need to have direct internet connections as well. So I propose (for some future date) three electronic mailing addresses @somewhere: mr2-announce@ mr2-help@ mr2-interest@ and four electronic mailing lists moderators-list announce-list help-list interest-list and a moderated newsgroup rec.autos.makers.toyota.mr2 I think what I outline below would be good for any automotive mailing list that has gotten too big for a simple /etc/aliases entry. The typical posting is send to mr2-interest@, which mails it to the moderators-list; the first moderator that approves it causes it to be posted immediately to the newsgroup, archived, and accumulated for the next digest email to interest-list (sent out once a night). More specifically mr2-announce@ is the intended recipient of announcements of general interest: regional gatherings, prospective additions to the FAQ, and administration. No questions are to be asked, and no discussions allowed; the moderators enforce those rules and reject inappropriate submissions. Approved announcements go to announce-list and to the newsgroup. Anybody can be on announce-list, but announce-list is intended for people who don't want to read the volume in the newsgroup or digest. mr2-help@ is the intended recipient of help requests with a short time scale: typically purchase and service decisions. No discussions are allowed; the moderators enforce that rule and reject inappropriate submissions and questions that are answered in the FAQ. Approved requests go to help-list and to the newsgroup. Anybody can be on help-list, but help-list is intended for people who are willing and able to answer questions quickly and directly to the inquirer. mr2-interest@ is the intended recipient of all other postings related to MR2. Discussions are allowed. Moderators only need to filter out submissions that are not germane, or illegal or grossly distasteful, or content-free. Approved requests go to the newsgroup. rec.autos.makers.toyota.mr2 receives everything that passed muster with any of the previous lists; posting to the newsgroup occurs as soon as the item is approved. All postings to the newsgroup are simultaneously archived and digested for email. email digests go out once a day to interest-list. ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 16:41:35 PDT Subject: a slightly better undigester for Unix For better From: return addresses, Richard Soluk suggests: > if echo $from | egrep '\-fuunet\!*\!*' > /dev/null ; then > from=`echo $from | awk -F! '{print "-f"$3"@"$2}'` > fi > added to your script just before echo $subject | cat - $resend | /usr/lib/sendmail $from $who This will usually work, but perhaps not always, so that a simple reply will go to a legitimate internet domain-style address. ------------------------------ End of mr2-digest V1 #5