mr2-digest Monday, 16 October 1995 Volume 01 : Number 002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ken (Kendrick Samuel Hough) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:49:00 PDT Subject: third test of restrict_post third test of restrict_post ------------------------------ From: ken (Kendrick Samuel Hough) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:49:29 PDT Subject: fourth test of restrict_post fourth test of restrict_post ------------------------------ From: ken (Kendrick Samuel Hough) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:56:05 PDT Subject: fifth test of restrict_post fifth test of restrict_post ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 22:00:19 PDT Subject: ANNOUNCE Seat Belt stuck ! A victim of my majordomo transition, the following message bounced when it shouldn't have; reply to bbakshi@cs.tamu.edu: > From: Bikram S Bakshi > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 23:27:21 -0500 > To: uunet!validgh.com!mr2-announce > Subject: Seat Belt stuck ! > > Hi all, > > This is a repost. Just wanted to make sure everybody gets it. > > The non-driver side seat belt on my 86 NA is stuck and refuses to > budge more than 1/2" or so. This has happened twice before but > I managed to struggle and get it free. This time, however, it seems > determined not to be outdone by me. > > Any information on how to fix it is desperately sought (especially since > my car is reduced to carrying only one passanger now !) > > Thanks > > Bikram > ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 22:12:52 PDT Subject: another erroneous bounce Subject: Club sticker From: uunet!softwords.bc.ca!geoff (Geoff Seeley) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:36:02 I've added another design for the club sticker to both the Web page and the FTP site. It was done by my friend Paul Thomas who works as a graphic designer and specializes in logos. It's very nice IMHO... ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 22:23:13 PDT Subject: erroneous bounces vs. women of former USSR validgh.com is not actually on the internet but communicates with uunet via uucp. Most of the time you probably don't notice this, unless you examine how email addresses get rewritten in the headers of messages. But the interaction of majordomo's restrict_post and the uucp rewrite APPEARS to be causing legitimate postings to bounce. At least that's what it looks like now; I'm going to bed after working on majordomo for about nine hours. Here's what you need to do before you can post, in most instances: send a message "subscribe" to mr2-digest-request@validgh.com; that will add your rewritten address to the list. You should then be able to post to mr2-digest@validgh.com. You will also get two copies of every digest. Let me know directly if that happens and I will manually remove the previous address. If you never post, no problem. This will all be worthwhile, I hope, if it prevents the former women of the USSR and the former magazine-selling students of Cornell from further postings. ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 22:36:35 PDT Subject: ANNOUNCE erroneous bounces vs. women of former USSR validgh.com is not actually on the internet but communicates with uunet via uucp. Most of the time you probably don't notice this, unless you examine how email addresses get rewritten in the headers of messages. But the interaction of majordomo's restrict_post and the uucp rewrite APPEARS to be causing legitimate postings to bounce. At least that's what it looks like now; I'm going to bed after working on majordomo for about nine hours. Here's what you need to do before you can post, in most instances: send a message "subscribe" to mr2-digest-request@validgh.com; that will add your rewritten address to the list. You should then be able to post to mr2-digest@validgh.com. You will also get two copies of every digest. Let me know directly if that happens and I will manually remove the previous address. If you never post, no problem. This will all be worthwhile, I hope, if it prevents the former women of the USSR and the former magazine-selling students of Cornell from further postings. ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:08:01 PDT Subject: more on uucp ! addressing I'll make an example of Stuart since his was the first example I got this morning. I think he tried subscribe stuart@aeolians.bt.co.uk to mr2-digest-request. This is a correct address in the preferred domain format. But unfortunately his return address that major sees from here is not that, but uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart in uucp format. Now the lists are set up so that you can only subscribe/unsubscribe yourself at the address you're posting from; everything else major asks me to approve: > Stuart Smith requests that you approve the following: > > subscribe mr2-digest stuart@aeolians.bt.co.uk But if I approved that, "stuart@aeolians.bt.co.uk" would be added again to the list, which isn't needed since it's already there. What stuart needs to add is uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart. He could ask that explicitly, but better not to try to second guess the email rewrite rules; I think a simple message "subscribe" to mr2-digest-request would cause the right address to be extracted from the mail headers, so that subsequent postings from that address would be accepted. So everybody who wants to post and bounces or doesn't get through: you had probably better subscribe first with just the simple message "subscribe" to mr2-digest-request. When you start getting two copies of digests, let me know and I will manually remove your old address. Lurkers who read but don't post don't need to do anything. All this trouble is to discourage spammers. I will have to turn off the posting_restrict feature if I can't get it to allow legitimate postings though. And eventually I will get a direct internet connection and that should cure the address rewrite issues. There is probably some way to avoid it by writing additional perl scripts, but I don't have any more time for that now. ------------------------------ From: dgh (David G. Hough at validgh) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:43:27 PDT Subject: bounced messages Major's keen-eyed security forces apprehended the following postings this morning. I tried not to drop any by accident: >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11552; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:03 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:03 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11552@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Stuart Smith ] Status: R >From uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart Mon Oct 16 07:15:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11309; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:09 PDT Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlrd29525; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:25:58 -0400 Received: from nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:25:19 +0100 Received: from scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk by nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:25:37 BST From: Stuart Smith Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:24:12 BST Message-Id: <5786.9510160824@scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk> To: uunet!validgh.com!mr2-interest Subject: Re: Toyota AM/FM/Cassette/CD Fix > Hi, have a problem with a Toyota audio system and hope someone here can help. > > Many years back a friend gave me a brand new Toyota (Panasonic) CQ-YT491A > AM/FM/Cassette with a Toyota (Panasonic) CX-DT191A CD player. ^^^^^^^^^^ AHA!!!! I remember trying to get you US lot to believe that I had a Matsushita stereo (badged Toyota) as OEM, and you said that must just be a UK thing... well this must not be the case then (Panasonic is Matsushita)...hey! simple things amuse..etc (it's monday morning).. I believe > that the same or similar unit was installed in the MkII version of the MR-2 > (This came out of a 1990 Land Cruiser). > > I obtained the 14 pin harness from the Toyota dealer and wiring instructions > from Panasonic's OEM division, but can't seem to power up the unit. Based > on past practice of members of this list, what is the best way to get this > unit checked out. If you have a Toyota audio system in your vehicle, and it > is non functional, is it best to go back to the dealer or an independent car > audio specialist? Does anyone have a list of Toyota approved > service/warranty centers? > Sorry, but I'm not much help here. I'd try a private place (you know, one of those guys who offers to decode them at the back of motor mart mags.. > Any help would be appreciated. As soon as I get this unit working, I hope > to sell it. If anyone is interested in it (it has never been used as it was > immediately replaced by an aftermarket system), please contact me as well. > I wouldn't waste much money on it. THE OEM stuff isn't that good quality ( especially the AM/FM cassette). I tried to sell my old one, and no-one (I'm talking hifi shops here) would even give me 50 quid. I know it sells for 850 pounds from Toyota, but that price has been generated by Toyota's magic 'random-numbers' lottery predictor/pricing machine.. Stu >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11565; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:07 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:07 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11565@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Stuart Smith ] Status: R >From uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart Mon Oct 16 07:15:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11314; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:11 PDT Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlrf03174; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:52:01 -0400 Received: from nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:51:30 +0100 Received: from scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk by nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:51:48 BST From: Stuart Smith Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:50:24 BST Message-Id: <5805.9510160850@scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk> To: uunet!validgh.COM!Mr2-interest Subject: Re: MR2 pride, how far does it go{ > Can we all say "the perfect GT"? That's what it is, the perfect GT. > On the transmission... I, too thought that manual is a necessity, until I > read a neat piece of statistics. Apparently more than 80% of all 928s in Europe > and here (more in Europe) came with automatic tranny. I wonder why. Is it the > whole concept of GT cars vs. sports cars, or are the people who can afford this > cars feel they need the comfort? It could be something to do with a 5 litre 8 that has so much torque , as to make a gearbox unnecesary... It's about the onlt auto I'd ever consider owning.. Stu >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11571; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:08 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:08 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11571@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Stuart Smith ] Status: R >From uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart Mon Oct 16 07:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11304; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:08 PDT Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlrc08068; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:12:34 -0400 Received: from nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:12:05 +0100 Received: from scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk by nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:12:25 BST From: Stuart Smith Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:11:00 BST Message-Id: <5783.9510160811@scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk> To: uunet!validgh.com!mr2-interest Subject: Re: Dealership Praise > I'd like to put in a good word for the dealership I bought my MR2 from, R&H > Motorcars in Reisterstown, MD (near Baltimore). I know that Consumer > Reports rated Toyota dealers last in customer satisfaction, but I've been > happy with this one. They also sell Mercedes, so maybe that has something > to do with it. > > Brad > Stange how things change from country to country. As I mentioned a few months ago, over here, Toyota MR2 came first in the JD POWER survey (including everything from mercs, porsches, to Escorts, Fiestas... Stu >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11588; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:15 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:15 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11588@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from ["Marc L. Summers-SysAdmin" ] Status: R >From uunet!tdd.hbo.nec.com!marcs Mon Oct 16 07:15:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11336; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:16 PDT Received: from archimedes.inoc.sj.nec.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlrw11751; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:00:55 -0400 Received: by inoc.sj.nec.com (8.6.12/YDL1.7-930126.17) id GAA27533(archimedes.inoc.sj.nec.com ); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 06:00:53 -0700 Received: by sj.nec.com (8.6.12/YDL1.7-940623.1) id GAA15015(netkeeper.sj.nec.com ); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 06:00:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199510161300.GAA15015@netkeeper.sj.nec.com > Received: by tdd.hbo.nec.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA149218400; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 06:00:00 -0700 From: "Marc L. Summers-SysAdmin" Subject: New WEB site entry To: uunet!validgh.com!mr2-interest Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 5:59:59 PDT X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.14] Well, I finally got around to changing out my coolant. It was just about time to do it. I wrote up the detailed instructions, and emailed them to Geoff, who I am sure will be so kind as to post them at the WEB site. So look for them to show up. PS: it was not as difficult as some would play it up to be, it just takes some time. I fully suspect that next time I change it out that I could do it faster. Oh yes, I forgot to add that I did add in a bottle of Water Wetter. - -- + ------------------------------------------------- + + +++ N E C +++ +++ A M E R I C A +++ + + ------------------------------------------------- + + Marc L. Summers System Administrator + + 3100 N.E. Shute Road Hillsboro Oregon 97124 + + PH: 1-503-681-3338 FAX: 1-503-681-3304 + + Email: marcs@tdd.hbo.nec.com + + ---------- Sic transit gloria mundi. ------------ + + --- "Thus passes away the glory of the world." -- + + ------------------------------------------------- + >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11611; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:23 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:23 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11611@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Stuart Smith ] Status: R >From uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart Mon Oct 16 07:15:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11396; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:32 PDT Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlrf07693; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:53:48 -0400 Received: from nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:53:29 +0100 Received: from scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk by nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:53:50 BST From: Stuart Smith Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:52:26 BST Message-Id: <5808.9510160852@scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk> To: uunet!validgh.com!MR2-interest Subject: Re: Twin Pipe/Single Pipe > Hi everyone, > > Some MKI NAs have only one exhaust pipe and some have two. Does > anyone know the difference? > > --SL > Ansa do a replacement rear box for the Mk1 which as twin twins. i.e. two pipes each side coming out the rear box.. (200 pounds..cough cough).. Maybe this is what you saw? Stu >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11621; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:25 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:25 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11621@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Megalon ] Status: R >From uunet!ibi.com!UNXRRR Mon Oct 16 07:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11428; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:43 PDT Received: from uu10.psi.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlru06363; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibi.com by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA21916 for mr2-digest@validgh.com; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:42:14 -0400 Received: from ibivm by ibigate.ibi.COM id aa19982; 16 Oct 95 8:36 EDT Received: from IBIVM by IBIVM.IBI.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3178; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:40:52 EDT Received: from IBIVM by IBIVM.IBI.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3176; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:40:52 EDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:38:02 EDT From: Megalon Subject: The MR2 lives! To: mr2-digest X-Acknowledge-To: Message-Id: <9510160836.aa19982@ibigate.ibi.COM> Can't remember the magazine I was browsing (motor trend maybe?) but it had a full page on a car "TOM's Angel T01". It's 1700 lb (US lbs) kit looking car that has a 20 valve MR2 engine in it (the 153 hp version?). Expected price is $42,000 (US). Anyone heard anything else on this? >From major Mon Oct 16 07:17:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11629; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:27 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:17:27 PDT Message-Id: <9510161417.AA11629@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from ["Burns, James B." ] Status: R >From uunet!central.ssd.jhuapl.edu!BurnsJB1 Mon Oct 16 07:15:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11434; Mon, 16 Oct 95 07:15:45 PDT Received: from mailer.jhuapl.edu by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlrv06269; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:55:35 -0400 Received: from ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu by mailer.jhuapl.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16046; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:55:31 -0400 Received: by ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu with Microsoft Mail id <30825641@ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu>; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:55:29 EDT From: "Burns, James B." To: ken wong , "-=[MR2]=-" Subject: RE: HKS Exhaust Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:51:00 EDT Message-Id: <30825641@ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu> Encoding: 24 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >i am going to install the HKS exhaust. I remember hearing lotsa talk >about the result of installing the exhaust usually means a degraded low >end power. However the guy at the store said otherwise. who do i believe? Believe no one. Trust no one. Especially don't believe the guy trying to get you to spend your money on his product. Ask people who have actually installed the HKS exhaust, and see what they think. I personally think it is a waste of money. The tips looks really nice, but is that worth $450+? I know someone who has one and he noticed no difference in performance from the stock exhaust, and he road races and autocrosses. It even sounds stock. I think the stock exhaust is hard to beat because it is stainless steel (won't rust out like the others), the tips look fine, and it costs you nothing. If you want better sound and (possibly) performance on a MKII Turbo, go with the straight pipe. It's cheap ($40-60 at a muffler shop) and removes about 30 lbs. from the back of the car. It's quite a bit louder than stock, but sounds soooooo good. I use the straight pipe for autocrossing, but bolt the stock exhaust back in if there will be more than 2 weeks between races (makes the neighbors happier, and allows me to hear the stereo better). Brad '94 Turbo black >From major Mon Oct 16 08:13:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11706; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:13:11 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:13:11 PDT Message-Id: <9510161513.AA11706@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from ["The Danimal" ] Status: R >From uunet!lib.nmsu.edu!dch Mon Oct 16 08:12:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11685; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:12:57 PDT Received: from NMSU.Edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlsd11065; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:46:53 -0400 Received: from lib.nmsu.edu by NMSU.Edu (8.6.10/NMSU-1.18) id IAA00043; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:46:44 -0600 Received: from [128.123.44.72] (pc-dhust.NMSU.Edu) by lib.nmsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01019; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:46:40 MDT From: "The Danimal" Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:51:20 MDT Message-Id: <31880.dch@lib.nmsu.edu> X-Popmail-Charset: English To: uunet!validgh.com!mr2-interest Subject: Re: NO SUBJECT They do, I own a red 91T with out tbars or a moonroof. No creeks or leaks for me :> - -dan PS: I think there very rare cause Ive never seen another. On Fri, 13 Oct 95 12:29:31 EDT, wrote: >Subject: NO SUBJECT >The LS also is an excellent car. I did not have much respect for so-called >family sedans until I tried to race an LS through the streets of Washington >DC. I only have a 93NA so as with most cars, the LS is faster 0-60. However, >once we came to the end of 16th Street where there is a big curve, I not only >passed the LS, but put some distance on him around the curve. > >The driver came me a thumbs up at the next stop light. I have a new >found respect for Toyota sedans and I think he had a new found >respect for Mister 2. > >I have never wanted a turbo so much as I did that day. If only >they came without t-tops... > >Regards, >Tony > >------------------------ >Tony Linton >Rockville, Maryland >IBM Corporation > >93NA 33K > > >*** Forwarding note from SMTP2 --IINUS1 10/13/95 11:30 *** >========================================================================= >Received: from relay3.UU.NET by vnet.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; > Fri, 13 Oct 95 11:31:35 EDT >Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP > id QQzlhc02190; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:14:59 -0400 >Received: from validgh.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL > ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:15:04 -0400 >Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA01444; Fri, 13 Oct 95 07:19:50 PDT >Received: from mailer.jhuapl.edu by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP > id QQzlgu21339; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:08:47 -0400 >Received: from ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu by mailer.jhuapl.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) > id AA02334; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:08:46 -0400 >Received: by ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu with Microsoft Mail > id <307E64DC@ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu>; Fri, 13 Oct 95 09:08:44 EDT >From: "Burns, James B." >To: MR2-interest , > Adrienne Mora >Subject: Re: MR2 pride, how far does it go{ >Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 09:07:00 EDT >Message-Id: <307E64DC@ssdsmtp.jhuapl.edu> >Encoding: 18 TEXT >X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 > > >>> I knew what a lexus was (sort of)....but what was >>> SC400 exactly?!? (I never associated SC with supercharged >>> for some reason with these sedan types..duh me!) >>> >> >>The Lexus's (Lexii?) are supercharged???? > >No. The SC just means that it is their two-door coupe rather than the LS >which is the 4-door sedan. The SC400 does have a powerful V8 engine, >though, along with good handling and rear-wheel drive, and it can embarrass >many sports cars. The Lexii coupes are probably the best combination of >luxury and performance that money can buy, and they are made by Toyota, so >you know the quality is good. Unfortunately, the SC400 is only available >with an automatic, so my choice would be the SC300 which has the same basic >6-cylinder as the Supra and can be had with a manual tranny. > >Brad ********************* * Dan Hust * * Systems Tech-VII * * New Mexico State * * University Library* * dch@lib.nmsu.edu * * 505 646-2931 * ********************* >From major Mon Oct 16 08:13:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11714; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:13:13 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:13:13 PDT Message-Id: <9510161513.AA11714@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Bruce Brandt 834-7372 ] Status: R >From uunet!am.ocmv36.frco.com!brandt Mon Oct 16 08:12:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11680; Mon, 16 Oct 95 08:12:56 PDT Received: from rosewood.frco.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlsd14572; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:49:24 -0400 Received: by rosewood.frco.com (8.6.9/fisher.1.11) id JAA36772; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:49:18 -0500 Received: from redwood.frco.com(155.177.2.21) by rosewood via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma007551; Mon Oct 16 09:48:54 1995 Received: from ocmv36.frco.com by redwood.frco.com (8.6.9/redwood.1.12) id JAA37457; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:51:11 -0500 Received: with SMTP-MR; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:37:32 CDT Mr-Received: by mta OCMV36.MUAS; Relayed; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:37:32 -0500 (CDT) Mr-Received: by mta OCMV36; Relayed; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:37:32 CDT From: Bruce Brandt 834-7372 Subject: Re: fuel going, going, gone... In-Reply-To: <9510082138.aa04202@athena.compulink.gr> To: Kostas Chryssos , "john.limcangco" , uunet!validgh.com!mr2-interest Message-Id: <1732370916101995/A16423/OCMV36/119A82651E00*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: 119A82651E00 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;1732370916101995/A16423/OCMV36] Hop-Count: 0 Kostas writes > > I also hear a rush too but it is a rush out of the tank, not into it. Strange... > Actually not so strange. The fuel system is a closed loop to allow the scavenging of fumes from the fuel so as not to add to the ozone problem. There is a collector tank that collects the vapors and, in some cases, vents them back into the intake system when the car is running. On a really hot day with a mostly full tank you can actually have some fuel spew out of the filler neck due to the release of pressure. My wife's Taurus recently exhibited a very strong smell of gas on a 100+ degF day here in Texas. We took it to the dealer and were told that if it reoccurred they would replace the fuel canister because it was accumulating raw fuel not just vapors and could explode! Regards, Bruce Brandt 89SC MR2 T-Tops >From major Mon Oct 16 09:14:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12160; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:14:10 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:14:10 PDT Message-Id: <9510161614.AA12160@validgh.com> To: owner-mr2 From: owner-mr2 Subject: BOUNCE mr2: Non-member submission from [Stuart Smith ] Status: R >From uunet!aeolians.bt.co.uk!stuart Mon Oct 16 09:13:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from uunet.UUCP by validgh.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12101; Mon, 16 Oct 95 09:13:41 PDT Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzlsh24858; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:59:20 -0400 Received: from nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 16:56:06 +0100 Received: from scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk by nemesis.aeolians.bt.co.uk; Mon, 16 Oct 95 16:56:27 BST From: Stuart Smith Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 16:55:02 BST Message-Id: <6018.9510161555@scooby.aeolians.bt.co.uk> To: uunet!validgh.com!mr2-interest Subject: Piccies I've got around to scanning in 3 piccies of my car. Geoff'll be sorting them onto the ftp site hopefully, including one for the www entry (whos who).. Just thought I'd let you know....I'll have to get my hands on a decent scanner though..... interesting points: on the shot from the back, you should see the boot rack..and the fire-extinguisher... Stu Mk1 '87 NA ------------------------------ End of mr2-digest V1 #2